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Context: One of the things I remember as a child (definitely when I was 8 years old, possibly younger) is that my father would ask me to get a piece of scrap paper so that he could show me something. What would follow would be some ad-hoc lesson about algebra, electronic circuits, or possibly matrix math. I didn't always get it on the first try, but it was fascinating just the same. He's still very much around, and we still go through these exercises when we're both in the same place, and he wants to talk through an engineering problem with me.

Here's one lesson he never taught me, and I kind of wish he did.


I'd probably be reading a book in the family room, and my dad would walk in, likely in a dark suit, stuffing a yarmulka back into his pocket. He'd ask me what I was reading, ask me a couple of questions about it, and ask me to put down the book for a second and get a piece of paper.

"Remember that talk we had about what a 'bell curve' is, and you were wondering about when you'd use it? So, now I have something really interesting to show you."

"In about thirty years, you're going to notice something, and I trust you'll remember, so I don't mind telling you right now."

He'd materialize a mechanical pencil, and start sketching out a bell curve with sigmas at the appropriate points. "As it turns out, one of the things that can be graphed on a bell curve is how long people are going to live. You, me, everyone. You've got a long long way to go, so does your mom, and so do I."

"So here's the thing. In about thirty years, people your age will be *just* enough closer to center of the curve [over *here*] that some people who are at the edge [over *here*] will no longer be around. That's not all that many people, but if you know a lot of them, like me and your mom do, there will be a few people you know."

"I know I must seem very old to you, but I'm not, and when those few of your friends are the age I am now, they will all seem very young to have died so early, and it will all look very strange, but it's just math."

"I want you to write something down for me. It's just five words, and I want you to remember it. Write it in other languages, write it backwards, tap-dance to it, do whatever you need to do to remember this. You're not going to understand it right now, but it's very important, okay? Okay."

"'No One Is Promised Tomorrow.' Just write it down."

So, in my too-neat-by-half handwriting, I'd write it down. Probably a couple of times to make sure it looked nice.

"Good good. Now c'mon. Get your shoes on and grab that stack of books. I promised your mom I'd take you to the library."

Date: 2011-12-27 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zzbottom.livejournal.com
There are lessons that can be taught to learn, and lessons that must be experienced to learn. I don't know about you, but this falls under the latter heading for me.

Date: 2011-12-27 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theloriest.livejournal.com
*hugs you*

This is one of the reasons I call my parents every day. And a reason I am so affectionate and like to tell my friends how much I love them.

Date: 2014-05-09 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigira.livejournal.com
It's why I call my mother as much as I do, too. When my father died, I didn't call him the day before because I was too tired. I was too tired because I was pregnant with F.

And the last time I saw him, he hugged me quickly and sent me into the airport because someone was smoking nearby, and between his COPD and my pregnancy and allergies, he didn't want me to hang around. Yet, even then, I knew it was the last time I'd see my daddy.

Date: 2011-12-27 09:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] perspicuity.livejournal.com
i think reading so much sici/fantasy early is what got me prepped with this thinking in mind.

everyone i know is going to die. i am going to die.

for any given group, all things you typically associate with people is going to likely happen to one degree or another. jobs. joblessness. dating. marriages. births. divorces. deaths. moving. accidents. sickness.

some of these are happy making. some are not.

fortunately zombies is not on the list.

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Date: 2011-12-27 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymondegreen.livejournal.com
I know exactly what you mean.

I am currently combing recordings of an unarchived for the voice of someone who rarely sang, but talked a lot to all of us, and left us yesterday.

On the one hand, I grew up with death as a close companion, on the other hand, it would have been nice to really get it from a mathematical standpoint.

Date: 2011-12-27 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awfief.livejournal.com
*hugs* this is somewhat chilling, but not untrue regardless. Thank you for writing it. It's very true, and sad that we're now in that place, cresting over the bell curve.

Date: 2011-12-27 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srl.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing this.

Date: 2011-12-27 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazybone.livejournal.com
In the words of Stan Lee "'nuff said".

Date: 2011-12-27 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wotw
You are a hell of a good writer.

Date: 2011-12-27 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacehawk.livejournal.com
This. Yes. Thank you. *hugs*

Date: 2011-12-28 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrus.livejournal.com
This was beautiful to read - thank you. I wish y'all lived closer...

Date: 2011-12-28 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debsquared.livejournal.com
Is there someone you're thinking of, who didn't get a tomorrow? Big hugs for you, and thank you for the story.

Date: 2011-12-28 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifecollage.livejournal.com
Most recently, Badger - a woman in the SF/F and filk communities in the Northeast. But it seems that there's been a number of folks below the age of 65 who've died recently.

Date: 2011-12-28 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debsquared.livejournal.com
Hugs for you, too.

Date: 2011-12-28 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nex0s.livejournal.com
My first grandparent died when I was 6, followed by deaths of family members (cousins, grandparents, etc) at 9, 11, 16 and 19. At 16 I gave my first eulogy. At 23 I had to call my college roomate to tell her our friend was dead. At 28 another eulogy. At 36 I buried my father. I am 38 now.

It is hard for me sometimes to feel compassion for those that didn't get the message that no one is promised tomorrow. Or when people I know who are my age, have never lost anyone - not even a pet - and are shocked when death comes at last.

I'm sorry for your loss, though, and hope that the lesson isn't too hard to bear.

N.

Date: 2011-12-28 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitebird.livejournal.com
You are, sir, as always, highly eloquent.

And I'm sorry for the loss to you and your community of Badger. I don't think I ever met her.

Date: 2011-12-28 09:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muffyjo
That reminds me of a similar quote on ameanwhile d"ifferent vector. Mark twain once s aid, "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."

Meanwhile, that was very eloquently put. It sounds like you've lost someone and it's hitting you up front and center. I am sorry to hear that if it's the case.

*sends warm hugs*

Date: 2011-12-28 12:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beowabbit
That was very well put. Thanks.

Date: 2011-12-28 04:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drwex
There's a reason I have a T shirt that says "You get what everyone gets: a lifetime."

Date: 2011-12-28 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffpaulsen.livejournal.com
The lesson that your peers will die at an ever increasing rate, predictable by actuarial science, my Dad mentions that every time one of his golfing buddies passes on. The death of a friend is tragic, the death of a peer is a reminder of my own mortality, and the fact that math is going to stack these one on top of the next, accelerating through the decades, that's just brutal. You have my sympathy.

I'd had a fair number of friends die when I was a kid, but generally they were terminally ill for some time before. The first real shocking death of a peer was a suicide when I was 19 or 20. When I mentioned this to my dad a couple days after, still pretty shocked and crushed and messed up, he said, "If this is the worst thing that ever happens to you, that would be a charmed and easy life." I found that comforting, and still draw a lot of strength from it (which is exactly why he said it). I pass it along to you now hoping you'll get some benefit from it also.

If there were such a thing as competitive Stoicism, my Dad would be in the same league as Marcus Aurelius.

Date: 2011-12-29 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
I joke with my Dad when he tells me he went to another memorial service: "I see your new hobby is really taking off."

Date: 2011-12-29 09:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jasra
Thank you for sharing this.

Date: 2012-01-08 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com
::quiet reflection::

This was a wonderful post to read. Sad, but beautiful. I lately find that my thoughts run towards, 'things will change and not always in a way we like. We need to enjoy the way things are now. And try to enjoy them later too.' I see J's Oma who is in her mid-90's and is all alone: mostly blind, mostly deaf. She's buried 3 husbands and a son. Everyone in her generation is gone. And she's just waiting to die. Is this what living a long time means?

My parents never taught me to enjoy every day. But I'm still trying to learn it.

Date: 2014-05-11 08:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beowabbit
Thank you. And I’m so glad he’s still very much around!

Date: 2014-05-11 08:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beowabbit
Er, I see I commented on this when you originally posted it. That’s a problem with queueing up a zillion tabs to read later. But thanks for writing it originally and thanks for posting a link to it again.
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